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SmartHome Integration

I am seriously looking at iKettle3 and would like to integrate it into my SmartHome.

In oder to avoid too many Apps and Tools, I would like to integrate iKettle via WEB/REST-API into my FHEM or OpenHAB or OpenAssistant.

Is there an API-description you are able/willing to share with me/developers?

Would be a nice promotion for your product in that community.

Thanks!

Bernd

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    Natalie Official comment

    Hello Bernd, 

    Currently the API for the 3rd Gen is closed. 

    Our developers are considering opening it in the future, but this has not been confirmed. 

    Best wishes, 

    Emma 

    Smarter Support

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    Torsten

    Hello Emma,

    Sorry about my bad English.

    So why in the future?

    In the future, the Melitta, WMF, etc., will do the same.

    only now you have an opportunity through the SmartHome Community external development and input.

    Help the developers !

     
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    Nick Clemmons

    I'll throw my vote on this feature! I'd love to control it directly from Samsung SmartThings, especially if temperature and keep warm time were integrated.

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    Joachim Sörensen

    I also give this feature a vote, Most that i would love to control my smarter coffee, WEB/Rest API

     

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    Keen Fann

    I want this as well! Please give it to us!

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    Christopher Wansing

    Would love to see that! We are a small smart home startup and would sell this device a lot more often if we would be able to integrate it with our system properly!

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    Michael Hübner

    I'am using the iKettle3 in a privat setting and it's a wonderful device, but I'am a developer too and from that point of view it would add so much more value if you'd open the api/ give keys away. I'm in particular interested in getting the current Temperatur of die iKettle3 via Amazons Alexa or Goggle Assistent  by asking them. Therefore I have to open up the app each time, which is a bit annoying. 

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    Natalie

    Hi Michael, 

    With the Alexa and Google Home integrations, you can ask them the temperature of the kettle. :) 

    To control with integration you use the name you gave the kettle in the app, if you called the kettle 'kettle' you can do the below. 

    For Alexa simply say "Alexa, what is the temperature of the kettle?" and Alexa will let you know the temperature live temperature of the water in the kettle! 

    The same with Google Assistant but the phrase is “Ok Google, what is the temperature of the kettle?”. 

    Best wishes, 

    Emma

     

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    Sebastiaan Jansen

    Hi Emma,

    Quick question, have your developers decided yet on opening a bit of the connectivity on the V3 yet (like with the older versions)?

    I bought an iKettle with the assumption that I could hook it up to my domotica (did a quick google, found a nice github page, didn't realize V3 completely threw away with the nice interface).

    So currently i'm somewhat disappointed and probably going to return the device and look for a used V2 version.. (really don't want to have to do this).

    My two cents on why I think the decision to close the API is somewhat of a bad one in the IoT world, when Smarter would no longer exist (give or take a few years), IFTT would no longer work nor would the google/alexa integration.

    By having an open API you pretty much give your device an additional selling point since lots of developers at home build integration into tons of home automation systems (for free!).

    Can you please check with the development team again? also ask how serious they are considering it (and in what time frame)? 

    Thanks,

    Sebastiaan

     

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    Ian White

    I'll throw my vote in for this. 

    Closed IOT products will eventually die to open ones - smart home integration is NOT going to work using an app for every device.

    First(ish) to market is great but the moment an open API competitor comes along anyone serious about home integration is going to drop you and not look back (or simply not purchase in the first place).

    I really like the iKettle 3.0 but it'll be donated the moment an open API product that looks about as good as the iKettle comes along. 

    I wish more companies would understand this, IFTTT integration is simply not good enough.

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    bernd

    I see no change or innovation with respect to that subject......

    too bad.

    I am off this company now.

    Sorry!

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    Tim Nesham

    We too would be interested in better API integration for our app. IFTTT is not very good. I imagine there are legal concerns with a 3rd party app sending commands directly to your iKettle?

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    Charlie Haley

    I am also putting in my support for this, I was disappointed to learn the API has been shut off on the latest version...

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    Charlie Haley

    Is there any update on this at all? I find it absolutely insane that this still hasn't been done in nearly 12 months... I'd like to be using this to develop apps and the current limitations are extremely frustrating. 

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    Gareth

    Hi,

    As I was just pointed to this by someone in the IFTTT thread, let me make our position clear.

    Our current generation products form part of a ruggedised IoT platform, all of which has to comply with various international standards regarding hardware, and many security considerations for the software, firmware and back end infrastructure. There are a number of APIs available to first and second parties, obviously IFTTT, Google and Amazon are examples, but also other organisations who provide Home/ IoT based solutions. All of them work with us under a mutual NDA and are (obviously) able to provide and demonstrate a very, very  serious security focus.

    We have mentioned that we'd consider providing a user API, but this is not 'open' nor is it 'opening up'. The only way we can see this working is that you would apply for an authentication key - this would correspond with your Smarter access and provide you access to the devices you have access to, either on your own device networks, or shared networks to which you are the owner.

    Judging by some of the comments, this isn't going to be what you expect. You're not going to just be able to open a socket and communicate directly with a kettle or coffee machine on your network - not even close. Our devices communicate to the cloud via their own VPN-like connection, which is how our products are safe even on a public network. You will need to communicate via HTTPS with a cloud-based API, with correct authentication, and of course, only access to your own devices.

    We'll consider rolling this out in beta soon, with a limit number of testers. If you're interested, contact us and we'll go from there. 

    But once again I'll point out that this is an enhancement we are considering providing long term - commercial IoT products have no obligation to provide open APIs so don't expect it from everyone, otherwise you're going to be very very disappointed in future as the market can and will tighten up in response to security issues, where the typical outcome is going to be 'Why take the risk?'.

    Cheers,

    Gareth

     

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